I suppose, if I can make you hear who are away at the back side of
this vast congregation, that those between here and there will be able
to hear also; but I fear that it will be a difficult task.
I am a policeman, or, in other words, I profess to be a peacemaker,
and I believe this is the calling of a policeman; consequently, when I
see any difficulty or trouble betwixt any two of my brethren, or any
two of my fellow creatures, if my interference is solicited, I feel
called upon to make peace and to reconcile the parties. If, therefore,
I see any difficulties in this city—if I see any abuse practiced upon
a fellow citizen, I feel called upon to interfere. This is in me; it
is an inherent principle in me: I cannot cast it out. I love to see
the rights of my brethren and sisters maintained: that is my
I endorse what brother Brigham has said; I do it with all my heart;
and I do know, as brother John observed this morning, that the
revelations of Jesus Christ are accompanied with good common sense. I
have never seen any but what were the best sense that I have ever seen
I am a member of this institution which has been spoken of, called the
"Carrying Company;" I am one of those men, and I feel interested in it.
But, says one, have you got an investment there? Yes, I have—not
exactly in dollars and cents, but I have got my faith and goodwill
there; and then you can put with that all that I have on this earth;
and if you don't believe it, try me: it is all on hand.
I am not only for this, but for every other investment and scheme
which is made through the proper channel; for I feel that I belong to
this Church and kingdom. If I do not, I know not where I belong.
I am a citizen of this planet, and I do not know that I have ever done
anything to forfeit my citizenship. I feel that I have an inheritance
in these chambers of the mountains, and I have never forfeited that
before this body of people.
Do this people inherit the blessings promised? They do. Some are
afraid to plant and to build, for fear we should not stay here long
enough to eat and inhabit. Will I plant an orchard? Yes sir, I will.
To what extent will I improve? To as great an extent as I should, if I
knew that I were to be a citizen of this Territory through all
generations. I would plant as much as I should want, if I knew that I
and my posterity were to live here till the last trumpet shall sound.
[President H. C. Kimball: They will, if they have a mind to; for there
are no devils who can drive them away from here, if they do right.]
I will never cease my exertions here, but I will do all that I can to beautify the place. I have done my best to do so, according to
my means: I have planted my grape-cuttings, and I have eaten some
fruit; I have planted my peach orchard, and have eaten the fruit
thereof; and I rejoice to see improvements among this people.
I had the pleasure of planting some three pecks of apple seeds in
Nauvoo, thinking they would be useful to somebody, and I believe the
trees are there now that grew from those seeds. Yes, there are
orchards and vineyards there now, and they will stand there as proofs
that this people have been an industrious people.
Why, I tell you, my brethren and sisters, it is one of the greatest
follies for men to say that they will not improve because they are not
going to stay here. I will build as good a place as I feel I need
here; and I will say something else: I would like to see the Temple of
the Lord built, and I feel that if it is his will that I should live,
I will do what I can towards building that Temple, for I want to see
it reared. Brethren, let us rear that Temple—give it into the hands of
those who manage the affairs of the kingdom, and all the means that we
can, so that the work may be accomplished speedily, and that we may
have a renewal of our endowments.
"Why," says one, "the endowments are going on." That is true:
portion of the endowments are going on, but there are other things
that never will until the Temple is built—of which are the baptism
for the dead and our endowments by proxy for our dead friends. Are
they going on? No. Will they, before that house is built? No, not that
I know of. That is one sermon.
There is another thing. Who is there that feels generous towards that
man who has gone beyond the veil—who is gone where he cannot do
anything for himself? I tell you I want to see that spirit among the
brethren. Suppose, therefore, we get rid of some of our selfishness,
and be willing, if proper, to take the wife of some faithful brother
who has passed behind the veil, and raise up posterity unto him. If we
can do this, in connection with other duties which we have to perform,
we shall be doing good for others as well as for ourselves.
What do the Scriptures say? "There is no work, nor device, nor
knowledge, nor wisdom in the grave, whither thou goest." No—there is
no device there, for so says brother Brigham, the Prophet. He says
that all the endowments have to be given on this side the veil, or
they never will be given. [President B. Young: That is true.]
I can say, when I see what there is to do—the mighty work that has to
be performed for the living and the dead, the responsibility is great.
Who can estimate it? And good order has got to be observed in regard
to this eternal inheritance which is in store for the faithful; for
without it all are perishing; but by the Gospel and its power there is
an eternal endurance, and we have had some foretaste of a few things
that are in reserve for the faithful Saints.
I feel, as brother Brigham says, that I want to see that Temple built.
Did you ever sit down and meditate, when all was quiet, when the
spirit of serenity seemed to fill the whole house, and when it seemed
as if there was some messenger there? If you have, although you did
not see him, there was a messenger there—there was a good spirit
present. As you continue to contemplate upon the dead, you say, "How I
wish I could do something for the redemption of the dead!"
You could not bear to behold that messenger who whispers in your ears
and invites you to be active in doing a work for your dead friends.
That messenger will inspire you with a desire to do something for
those who have passed behind the veil. Every man that has the
spirit of philanthropy feels that he is willing to do anything for the
great and glorious work of redeeming and exalting the dead.
You are also anxious to enter into the Carrying Company, to gather the
Saints whose faith is in our God, and whose eyes are turned towards
brother Brigham, who is the head of the Church and kingdom of God upon
the earth. To him they look for their deliverance from the thralldom
and oppression of the world.
I now want to preach a sermon to the home missionaries. I do not want
to hear them preach too long sermons, neither when they are out in the
country settlements, nor anywhere else. I should like to have them
preach as long as the subject before them is interesting, and so long
as the Spirit of the Lord is feeding the flock of Christ.
Jesus at one time addressed himself to Peter and said, "Peter do you
love me?" "Yes," was the reply. "Well, then, feed my
sheep." And again
Jesus interrogated him in the same manner, and Peter answered in the
affirmative. Then said Jesus, "Simon Peter, son of Jonas, lovest thou
me?" Peter answered, "Lord, thou knowest all things, and thou knowest
that I love thee." Jesus replied, "Feed my lambs."
I believe in this doctrine. When the Elders can feed the people, it is
all right for them to continue their discourses; but when the Spirit
is becoming dull and is declining, or, in other words, when the pond
is run out, then is the time to stop; for this grinding by hand I do
not believe in.
I know that some preach the everlasting Gospel, and that is a good
thing; but I believe that a man can preach it in five minutes.
I love short sermons, and when I am in the country at Conference and
other meetings, I feel that they are particularly good, and I rejoice
so long as the Elders feed the people. But when the Spirit ceases to
operate through a man, I want him to sit down.
It makes me think of a Scotchman, who, when he was a preceptor in an
academy, was required to give lectures at certain periods, according
to the regulations of the institution. On one occasion he said, "I
will give you the following lecture—Never speak but when you have
something to say, and always stop when you get through."
I do love to hear men talk good talk, as the Indians say. It is the
best and sweetest music I ever hear. I won't even except brother
Smithies' big fiddle. The music of the human voice is sweeter to me
than that of any stringed instrument. I do not care how illiterate the
man is who speaks, although learning is very good; yet, if he speaks
by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, that is what I like to hear.
Brother William Kimball could not have told me his feelings better
than I knew them, for I understood that he felt just as he described.
I can tell you that I would rather hear a few words dictated by the
Spirit of God, than hear a long sermon delivered without the dictation
of that Spirit.
I am for the building of the Temple, for the Express and Carrying
Company, and the gathering the Saints from all nations; and if I had
ten thousand dollars, I would invests it in such enterprises as these.
I have one boy going to England this spring. I have another in the
Printing Office, and that leaves me almost entirely alone; yet I feel
to say, Hallelujah! I am glad that my son Seymour is going to England,
for I know it will do him good. He is filled with the spirit of
I can tell you, my friends, it is very pleasing to me to know that my
children are advancing in knowledge and usefulness; and I sometimes
hear them talk, after they return from meeting, somewhat as
follows—"Who preached tonight?" "The Bishop."
"Who else?" "Oh,
brother Clinton and brother Wheelock." And they seem to think that all
the speakers talked so well that it would be hard to tell who talked
Now, do you not see, my friends, that these boys—children I may call
them—have got a relish for the Spirit and power of God? My little
girls also go to meeting in their turns, and they will inquire of each
other who preached. If the answer be that the Bishop preached, or any
other man, the next question generally is, "Did he preach well?" "Oh
yes," the reply is; "he talked first-rate;" and I find that they are
filled with the spirit of animation and of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I have not heard them say "dance" the past winter.
I do not discard the practice of dancing; therefore do not
misunderstand me; for "Mormonism," or the Gospel of Jesus Christ,
embraces all that is good, and dancing is a scriptural precedent; and
it is said that they should go forth in the last days in the dance.
Well, upon, this principle, we believe in dancing, and a certain
portion of it is useful to the limbs and to the joints, and to the
spirits as well.
But notwithstanding all this, wherever there is too much of any one
thing, it very naturally produces a reaction; and consequently, there
is a suspension of dancing for the present.
If our children do not dance when they are young, the sprightliness,
the vigor, and activity of youth are in a manner checked. My father,
when I was a boy, would not allow me to give vent to the life and
vigor that were in me; and now, if I were to give way to my feelings
at times, I should dance too much.
[President H. C. Kimball: You would dance the bones out of joint, I
It is not necessary that you should dance the whole of this spirit out
of you at once; for if you do, you will have none left, and
consequently, no disposition to dance anymore. I thought last winter
that the people would tire themselves dancing. When the "driftwood"
was taken away, and the course was clear, they danced as if they were
never going to stop.
I felt glad yesterday to hear what was said by brother Brigham and
also by others who addressed us, and I felt so well that I could have
danced. This is the way I feel a great deal of the time. As I
observed, my father checked the stream of diversion in us, and would
not allow his boys to dance at all; and probably that is the reason
why I feel so much like it now.
It is natural for our children to love the Gospel, for religion is a
natural thing—it is perfectly natural. You may take a child, and just
as soon as you can put it in possession of doctrine, that child will
love the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Only let it understand right from
wrong, and there will be nothing but the Gospel in that child. If we
set a proper example before our sons and daughters, the Gospel will be
manifested through all their actions, and there will be no evil desire
I want to know the bounds of my prerogatives in the Priesthood, and
never want to go beyond those bounds.
[President B. Young: Shall I give them to you?].
Yes. I want to know them. It is better for a man to run a little
behind the line than to have him go before it. I know there are some
things that I can say and do, and there are things that brother
Brigham can say and do that I cannot: it is not my prerogative.
Here are brother Brigham, brother Heber, and brother Wells, the First
Presidency; then there are the Twelve; then right behind them come
the Seventies and the High Priests—two mighty bodies of men,
whose business it is to act under the direction of the two first
Quorums; then come the Elders, Priests, Teachers, and Deacons, who
constitute the organization of the Priesthood in the Church, and who
are called to assist in preparing the way for Jesus to come. We are
(all who magnify their calling and Priesthood) trying to prepare a
people for his coming, to purge out those that are filthy, and to put
away every evil and wrong from us, and to prepare for the greater
weight of glory that is to come.
In order to do this, we are under the necessity of chastising; and the
greatest proof to me that there is a man standing at the head who
holds communion with God is, to see men receive chastisement in the
spirit of humility, without a murmur, and be satisfied that it is for
My opinion was, before I received the Gospel, and is the same now,
that the man who has the hardihood and boldness to rebuke his brethren
and to tell them of their faults and of their errors is a man of God.
Brethren, I want to get rid of my errors.
Brother Brigham said today, when he addressed you, that he wanted
those who stand up to instruct the Saints to say something worth
hearing; and hence there has been within me a feeling of extreme
diffidence, when arising to address you, not only today, but on many
other occasions; for there is not in me the power and wisdom to bring
out great principles before the Saints; but brother Brigham and
brother Heber can. I feel a delicacy in standing before such a vast
multitude as are here present, knowing that there are many bright
minds in this congregation.
Some think they could say a good deal, if they could have the
privilege of coming upon this stand; but when they come here,
everything seems to be shut out from their minds, and they can
scarcely say a word. The vast amount of intellect—of knowledge that
this people possess oftentimes throws persons who speak before them
into great confusion.
It is the most peculiar place—the most delicate situation that a man
can be placed in; and hence I say that the simpler a man is the
better. On this very account it is that I am contending with myself
all the time and endeavoring to be pointed in my sayings; for I do
not want to go round about, but to say things just as they are.
When I retain the Spirit of God—when that light is in me which was
with Jesus in all his counselings, at such times all the beings upon
the face of the earth would not intimidate me; but, with a mortal
tabernacle, we are subject to the weaknesses of mortality. To
communicate intelligence to this people, unless God first communicates
to me, is impossible; but when he does inspire me with his spirit, and
I speak the things right out, nobody need find any fault; and if they
do, it cannot be helped, for we must speak that which the Spirit
I once knew a little boy who was in the habit of being whipped by his
mother when he went to bed, in order to make him go to sleep, and he
became so habituated to the whipping that he could not go sleep
without it, and he would say, "Mother, come and whip me."
I do not desire to be of that class, but desire to so live as to be
able to discern true intelligence and present it before the people in
a way that they can all understand.
Brother Brigham told me to get up here and say something. I have done
so, and will now tell you that my all is invested in this kingdom: it
is all for the establishment of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints. Not gold, nor silver, nor the perish able
things of this world are invaluable to me—such articles will perish
and molder away—but those imperishable treasures that can never be
destroyed—the inestimable riches that God has put into my possession;
for these, my life, my goodwill, my faith, my prayers, and all that I
can do and possess are devoted to the establishment of righteousness
and the building up of the kingdom of God on the earth. All my
substance and every faculty which God has given me are subject to the
word of brother Brigham.
When a man thus surrenders himself, his family, his means, and
everything he controls to the servants of God, what will he have in
return? We have left all and have come off into these valleys, in the
midst of the Rocky Mountains; and what shall we have as a reward?
Jesus said, "There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or
brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God's sake, who
shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world
to come life everlasting." Is there not a compensation here promised?
Here is a key. When the Devil comes to you and asks you if you want to
serve God, tell him that it is none of his business, and that will
bluff off the Devil.
Brother Kimball has said that if I had not been sick, I should have
died; and I don't know but I should. I believe it has all been for my
good, and I can truly say I have not felt so well for many years as I
have felt since I recovered from my sickness last January. When a man
is sick, if the mind is uneasy, it injures the body. Since I have got
well, I have made a practice of sitting down contemplating and holding
communion with God and my own heart; and I do feel and know that I am
an heir of salvation; and I do not mean that any enemies shall take
this hope and assurance away from me.
I have thought sometimes that I would never die till I had been to
Europe. When we went to Quincy, after we were mobbed out of Missouri,
and a number of brethren were selected to go on missions, I recollect
what brother Brigham said on that occasion. He remarked, "If they did
not go and preach, they will apostatize." I do not know but he made
the remark in my presence for my benefit.
Well, we had just survived the bloody persecutions of Missouri, and
had got into Illinois, and were all as poor as a church mouse ever
was, and many of us felt almost disheartened. We had neither cow, nor
ox, nor horse, not one in twenty of us; but the people were humane
enough to take us in and assist us a little.
Finally, however, the people of Illinois became hostile, and would not
let us live in their midst; and we were forced to seek a home in the
midst of these mountains; and, for one, I feel to rejoice that I am
here in this healthy climate. But, as a Canadian would say, "This is
not a poor man's country;" but I believe that it is the best place on
earth for this people at the present time.
Brother Brigham has redeemed his word in bringing the people here, for
he said he would lead this people to a healthy climate. We are here in
the midst of these peaceful valleys and mountains; and I do not
believe that we shall ever be driven from here, if we do right—never,
I have no trouble about this; for I have been in the midst of mobs,
and they once held a council and determined to murder me and my
family; but the Lord turned away their anger. This was in Missouri.
They demanded our arms; but the brethren said they would not give them
up—that they would sooner die. I said, "Brethren, I am the captain of
this company, and you should listen to me and to my counsel,
and give up your arms." They did so, and by-and-by the hearts of those
men were melted (they were Kentuckians, who had been called upon to
assist the mob), and they came to us and said, "We will pay you for
your arms when the war is over." No doubt they talked the matter over,
and said, "These are good people; therefore let us pay them for their
arms." At any rate, they paid down their money, but we had to use
I do not want to detain you, brethren and sisters; but I do rejoice
that we are in these valleys, where there is nothing to induce our
enemies to come and drive us. We do not presume that they will come,
unless they are paid for coming. And if they ever do come, it is my
earnest prayer that I may be filled with the Holy Ghost; then,
peradventure, I shall want to carry the flag and be foremost in
putting our enemies to flight. But if this people will retain the
Spirit of God, and keep fanning the flame of the reformation that is
in them, our enemies will not come to distress us—we shall not be
molested; for no power can disturb us so long as we are faithful.
May God bless us all and preserve us upon the earth, and continue our
usefulness, until we have redeemed our families and friends—till we
all are brought up and fitted for his presence; which is my prayer, in
the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.